Timeline for Give high-rep users extra weight on close votes
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Jul 18, 2017 at 20:07 | comment | added | EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine |
Please do this
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Jul 6, 2017 at 7:35 | comment | added | Gert Arnold | Is there a way to draw some new attention to this issue without asking a duplicate question? The quality of questions is nosediving. I can close-vote 75% of the questions in my tags, but there are just too many people who only downvote without voting to close. All this rambling in poor questions... I'm at the verge of quitting. | |
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Nov 11, 2014 at 15:34 | history | edited | user2140173 |
I felt that this should also include the same weight for re-opening questions that's why I added the tag. Feel free to remove if this is STRICTLY and ONLY regarding the close votes and a separate feature request is needed for re-opening powers.
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Jun 3, 2014 at 6:54 | comment | added | bjb568 | Instead of reputation, how about number of CV reviews? Or just the passed v failed audits? | |
May 7, 2014 at 8:17 | answer | added | Ian Ringrose | timeline score: 4 | |
May 7, 2014 at 2:34 | history | edited | Robert HarveyMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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May 7, 2014 at 1:01 | comment | added | Jasper | This might be minor, but I would suggest changing the title to "Give high rep users extra weight on close votes". "Super-close" reads as "very near" to me. | |
May 7, 2014 at 0:54 | history | edited | user456814 |
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May 7, 2014 at 0:28 | comment | added | user456814 | See also: More effective closing / downvoting of junk questions to help with the signal-noise ratio?. | |
May 2, 2014 at 19:53 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @Mysticial So basically different SEs. We would have to wary of crossover technologies but web (php, js, css) desktop (c++, c#, haskell), data (mysql, postgresql) can sit apart. and hey this oughtta encourage an end to questions tagged php-mysql (which shouldn't even exist)! | |
May 2, 2014 at 19:50 | comment | added | Mysticial | Perhaps it's time for hierarchical moderation. Each "branch" would be restricted to a certain sub-community and you can go down as many levels as you need. Each moderator is elected only within its branch and everything below it. But clearly the system isn't designed for this. Now you can scale to hundreds of moderators. | |
May 2, 2014 at 19:46 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | Throwing more moderators at the problem isn't the right solution. Greater community involvement is. | |
May 2, 2014 at 19:46 | comment | added | nKn | @mikeTheLiar Because electing 2-3 moderators in a long while wouldn't compensate the already 2000 20k+ users that would have this priviledge. It wouldn't be such a great advantage as the OP's idea. | |
May 2, 2014 at 19:43 | comment | added | User1000547 | If we need more people insta-closing, why not elect more moderators? | |
May 2, 2014 at 19:38 | answer | added | psubsee2003 | timeline score: 14 | |
May 2, 2014 at 19:19 | comment | added | Kevin B | To be fair the exceptions are rare, so i guess that wouldn't really be that big of an issue. | |
May 2, 2014 at 19:19 | history | edited | Robert HarveyMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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May 2, 2014 at 19:10 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @KevinB: I closed it as a duplicate of the proposed question. If the rules I proposed had been in place, that question would have closed already. | |
May 2, 2014 at 19:05 | comment | added | Kevin B | Things like this: stackoverflow.com/questions/23330444 or the thousands of can i return from an ajax request duplicates that aren't exact duplicates (this is likely the one i see the most), or questions asking how to use a method that is clearly documented in the library's api. I understand if the api is hard to understand, but that's not the case for all apis. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:58 | comment | added | Kevin B | I'll have to look back to earlier this week, i've been somewhat away today | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:54 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @KevinB: Example? | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:53 | comment | added | Kevin B | I feel like there's too much disagreement at the moment between high-rep users and mods as far as what is and isn't on topic for stackoverflow to give out this kind of power. There are many questions for example that I would prefer to see closed that i know many of the mods wouldn't agree with. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:46 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @GeorgeCummins: The outcome is the same either way. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:45 | comment | added | George Cummins | What happens if the 20K user casts the first close vote (which is insufficient to immediately close the question) and then another sub-20K user votes to close? Will the super close vote be applied at the time of the second vote, or will the 20K user's vote continue to count as a normal 20%? | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:43 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @user3114046: Yes, that's all I'm saying. I want to trickle down that power to some high-rep users, so we have a few more people swinging hammers. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:43 | answer | added | Kermit | timeline score: 68 | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:42 | comment | added | James King | Over the last 2 days I've seen mods stomp in and swing the mighty hammer several times. I support that - seems good enough for me. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:38 | comment | added | Servy | @Kermit See the linked post at the top by Shog explaining why that's somewhat problematic. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:38 | comment | added | Mysticial | @Bart There's definitely a lot of risk involved. So I'm not saying we should just "do it" as is written right now. I'm just saying that I've seen way too many 1's become 4's because they couldn't do anything. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:37 | comment | added | Kermit | I would feel more comfortable if my vote only weighed 2.5 votes rather than was completely binding. Then if another 20+ user agreed with me, their 2.5 vote would satisfy enough votes to close. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:35 | comment | added | Bart | Could very well be @Mysticial. I'm just not entirely convinced by the >20k users == "good knowledge about what is off-topic" match-up. Might be worth a try, could surprise me. But some of the "concerns" raised in recent days had a lot of participants with very little visible moderation activity. Anyway, I'm not necessarily against it. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:35 | comment | added | Zane | I love this idea. I know I'm not a high rep user but even I'm being annoyed by the low quality of questions. Whether you agree with the assertion that this is why high rep users are dropping off it can't be argued that there are not plenty of questions in the VTC queue. Increasing the ability of trusted user to hammer down on these questions can definitely at least help keep that queue lower. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:33 | comment | added | Mysticial | @Bart Don't forget that a lot of high-rep users who do care have simply given up because they aren't equipped to deal with the problem. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:32 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @Bart: Talk to the people in the PHP chat room, or the WhiteBoard. They run out of close votes on a regular basis. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:32 | answer | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | timeline score: 5 | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:31 | comment | added | Bart | @RobertHarvey I would first love to see how active those concerned high-rep users currently are where it concerns moderation. If they are truly concerned and actively try to address the problem but that doesn't work, then additional privileges might possibly make sense. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:31 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @Servy: Yes, it would have to work both ways. In the same fashion, it would require one reopen vote from someone else (except for the OP). I'm on the fence about an upvote. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:30 | comment | added | Servy | @RobertHarvey Are you proposing the binding reopen vote for users that meet these criteria, as Shog does, or not? | |
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May 2, 2014 at 18:28 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @JonSkeet: That's why I've built a bunch of safeties into the binding vote. Anyway, it's unlikely that the 20K'ers would be using this on edge cases. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:28 | comment | added | Jon Skeet | "Either a question deserves to be closed, or it doesn't." I completely disagree with that assertion. That's suggesting there's no room for nuance - that every right-thinking user will agree on every single close vote. I can appreciate the "just do it anyway, it doesn't matter too much if we'd disagree" but I definitely reject the black/white nature of your statement. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:27 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @Servy: "Subject to tweaking." I'm not married to the details. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:27 | comment | added | Servy | Just to be clear, when you say a tag badge, you want it to be any tag badge, meaning just a bronze badge, correct? (I want to call this out as shog called out gold badges, and I want to be clear that your proposal is different.) | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:24 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @JonSkeet: Some moderators requested that in the past, and it was refused. The rationale (more or less): If you don't have enough cajones to swing the mighty hammer, then you shouldn't be casting a non-binding vote either. Either a question deserves to be closed, or it doesn't. In some of my recent discussions here, I assert that we take too much time wringing our hands about whether or not to close, when we should just be swinging the hammer immediately and giving the OP time to improve their question. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:23 | comment | added | Jon Skeet | I would at least want to be able to opt out of it - to give a particular close vote "normal" weight. | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:22 | comment | added | Mysticial | Very related: meta.stackexchange.com/a/230882/169611 | |
May 2, 2014 at 18:20 | history | asked | Robert HarveyMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |