Timeline for How should accepted link-only answers be handled?
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May 2, 2021 at 15:10 | comment | added | Jörg W Mittag | @AdamRackis: Are you aware that the owner of the website the answer linked to changed the code to include malware, once they noticed that their code was linked to from a popular answer? That is precisely why link-only answers are not acceptable, because you have no idea what will be at that link, after you posted the answer. | |
Apr 24, 2014 at 6:26 | comment | added | eis | sorry, there's been so many opinions on this that my sarcasm detector is apparently broken. :) | |
Apr 24, 2014 at 6:20 | comment | added | Adam Rackis | @eis - no, not for real. Was being sarcastic; we definitely agree :) | |
Apr 24, 2014 at 6:07 | comment | added | eis | @AdamRackis are you for real? I would claim just about any user that is actually searching for an answer would actually click the link, find the information and be happy about it. All the answers google gives are links as well, why would the user care if it's a link on google or a link on SO? Sure, it's better to have the answer directly in SO. That's the correct course of action, to add it there. That has also been done, the answer we debate on now contains the code. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 18:56 | comment | added | Adam Rackis | It's amusing to me to imagine someone trying to figure out how to solve some programming problem, Googling it, breathing a sigh of relief that a perfectly worded-SO post is result number 1, clicking, and being aghast—AGHAST—that the top answer therein is a link-only answer. Sure, it has 50 upvotes, is accepted, and perfectly solves the problem, but it's a link only damnit. The user angrily wonders why has nobody deleted this post that clearly violates the FAQ, while going back to the Google results to find a more palatable answer. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 15:08 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @gnat: I doubt very much that any of those answers were four year old, accepted answers with 50 upvotes, posted to on-topic questions. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 11:30 | comment | added | gnat | "no moderator in their right mind..." hm per my recollection, mods at Programmers and Workplace delete stuff like that, with comments like "expand your answer then flag for undeletion". I never could grok why SO mods are so afraid of doing so. Such deleted answers won't even go to audits, because of their positive score, there's nothing to loose | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 3:13 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @Gilles: That would indeed be rude, had I actually said it. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 2:02 | comment | added | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | Please read the official policy on link-only answer. I fail to see why a “moderator in their right mind” automatically would go against policy, with no good reason to put forward other than implicitly saying that the flagger is not in their right mind (which is not nice). | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:46 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | meta.stackexchange.com/questions/251609/… | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:45 | comment | added | László Papp | Why would you downvote it when you know moderators will not care anyway? How do you get 50 people really caring? You may get 5-10 which should still be dominant from this world since we live in this world, and you know, things have changed since the stone edge when people living in a cave? Those 50 upvotes from a completely different world have no value with today's rules. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:44 | comment | added | László Papp |
I can only re-quote myself: When people see such highly upvoted historical answers, they usually will not downvote it because they know moderators would not care anyhow. It is a sad state of affairs for historically poor posts that were top posts in the past, but not anymore, and people do not upvote it anymore. Past upvotes really should not defend it from a different policy world.
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Apr 22, 2014 at 0:43 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | If a very poor answer got a score of 50, the community seriously screwed the pooch. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:43 | comment | added | László Papp |
Are you genuinely advocating that any answer that has 50 score that the op has accepted on an on-topic question is subject to deletion? -> The whole discussion is about not any, but very poor. And yes, some people seem to have an agreement here that what moderators do is incorrect, indeed, including me.
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Apr 22, 2014 at 0:39 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | [sigh] Are you genuinely advocating that any answer that has 50 score that the op has accepted on an on-topic question is subject to deletion? I really don't think so. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:39 | comment | added | László Papp |
If you genuinely think we're handling these incorrectly, make a meta post about it, so that the community can discuss a possible change in policy. -> Please re-read the topic: How should accepted link-only answers be handled?
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Apr 22, 2014 at 0:38 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @LaszloPapp: Write a meta post. This one is about why the flag was declined. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:38 | comment | added | László Papp | Huh?! The whole point of Stack Overflow (to me and many) is that we find quality solutions resolved the last couple of years. When I look up for a solution with google, I will not care when it was answered. If it is an almost no-value rubbish post, high upvotes will not get me saved. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:37 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @LaszloPapp: If you genuinely think we're handling these incorrectly, make a meta post about it, so that the community can discuss a possible change in policy. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:34 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | Yeah, I knew you were going to bring that up. We're not going to run the answer through a flowchart to make these kinds of decisions. Fifty upvotes, game over. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:34 | comment | added | László Papp | Except that rep is preserved for old posts (>60 days). Wait, what? Too much information lost for a link? | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:32 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @LaszloPapp: I'm surprised I have to explain this, but I'll give it a try anyway. Removing an answer with 50 upvotes is tantamount to rep stealing; moderators simply will not do it. That goes double for accepted answers. Converting to comment doesn't work either; too much information is lost. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:31 | comment | added | László Papp | @Robert: 1 and 3 are moot as such answers do get deleted. I think the moderator decided not to delete due to the high number of upvotes, even though they had happened in the past before the new policy entered the site. When people see such highly upvoted historical answers, they usually will not downvote it because they know moderators would not care anyhow. It is a sad state of affairs for historically poor posts that were top posts in the past, but not anymore, and people do not upvote it anymore. Past upvotes really should not defend it from a different policy world. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:27 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | @LaszloPapp: The OP came here to meta to find out why. That's how this is supposed to work. | |
Apr 22, 2014 at 0:18 | comment | added | László Papp |
There are currently nearly 1200 moderator flags in the flag queue. You'll forgive us if we don't always give each flag special attention. -> I always see this excuse instead of getting new moderators on board. IMHO, this is not helping anyone. If the more work force is needed, you could get more moderators on board. It is unfortunate to see the excuse of "we do not have enough man power, so unfortunately that is it" reasoning all around as an excuse for some bad result.
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Apr 21, 2014 at 19:27 | comment | added | Satpal | Its not about me, I have encountered the question in moderation queue(20K plus, you know that) others also flagged for the same. So no need for special attention. | |
Apr 21, 2014 at 19:25 | comment | added | Robert Harvey Mod | There are currently nearly 1200 moderator flags in the flag queue. You'll forgive us if we don't always give each flag special attention. | |
Apr 21, 2014 at 19:23 | comment | added | Satpal | Sure editing the answer to make it non-link-only is a better solution. So moderator should have left a comment to OP and that would also helped me. Also, Where is consistency? When dealing with LOA. And moreover Is comment _ flags should only be used to make moderators aware of content that requires their intervention_ justified | |
Apr 21, 2014 at 17:55 | history | answered | Robert HarveyMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |