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I have been awarded the Critic badge for my first downvote. I do not recall downvoting anything, and my votes table does not show any downvotes. So, what does it mean?

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    Maybe you downvoted something and removed your vote?
    – VLAZ
    Nov 1, 2022 at 8:20
  • Not that I recall, and I did not know you could remove a vote.
    – petern0691
    Nov 1, 2022 at 8:22
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    Could be that you double-clicked by accident. A second click undoes a vote. But only within a certain time frame. So it would track if you misclicked or something similar. Although it might also be a bug.
    – VLAZ
    Nov 1, 2022 at 8:24
  • Its possible I double touched. I was on a mobile phone at the time I think. If a vote can be undone (within a limited time period) it would be a design flaw for it to be counted anywhere at all?
    – petern0691
    Nov 1, 2022 at 8:53
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    I would ask why you haven't already used a downvote prior. Downvotes are important, please use them more. :)
    – Thom A
    Nov 1, 2022 at 13:34
  • @petern0691 You can undo a downvote within a certain time period, after which it is locked in. You can then undo said vote only if the post is edited. After a certain number of applying and undoing a vote on a given post, you are blocked by the system from voting on that post anymore... I think it's like 10 or 15 times (just FYI).
    – TylerH
    Nov 1, 2022 at 14:00
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    Maybe deep inside, you're really a critic and that's showing up without even needing to fulfill any criteria.
    – TheMaster
    Nov 1, 2022 at 14:03
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    You can see all of your votes by visiting your vote history page on your main site profile - stackoverflow.com/users/16015991/…
    – Catija
    Nov 1, 2022 at 14:05
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    @Catija Just as a test, I downvoted a random question, refreshed, and checked my All votes. The downvote showed in the history. Then I retracted the vote, refreshed the question again, refreshed my activity again - The vote was simply removed from the history -- No "Retracted" or anything like that. Nov 2, 2022 at 21:53
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    On the theory that this might be a double-click, retracted vote, I tested on ServerFault, where I have downvote-privileges, and do not have the Critic badge. A retracted downvote did not trigger the badge. Nov 2, 2022 at 22:08
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    @petern0691 "So for my edification, why has this question been down voted? Such does not encourage people to try to understand how things work here." -- Downvotes on Meta don't really work the same way that they do on the main site. Here, they mean more of a "agree" or "disagree", which I know doesn't quite fit in this case either. But think of as something like -- 12 people think they already know why this is happen and/or don't care, and 5 people (currently) do want to better understand why things are working (or not) the way they are. Nov 2, 2022 at 22:11
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    On the point above re more down voting: Apart from my FQ well over a year ago I have only been active for the last ~6 weeks and have only had voting rights for a few weeks, so I am still getting my head around what is considered to be the good, the bad, and the ugly.
    – petern0691
    Nov 3, 2022 at 1:03
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    @Catija Nope, although we can see retracted close-votes (with no indication that they're retracted 🤷‍♂️) and close-votes on deleted questions, we don't get to see retracted up/down votes, nor do we see up/down votes on deleted questions (for mysterious reasons :D).
    – 41686d6564
    Nov 3, 2022 at 15:26
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    This is, minimally, weird enough that a documented answer on how it happened would be useful. At worst, this is actually some kind of bug. You got the award 30 minutes after posting an answer. Do you remember doing anything at all between the time you posted the answer and getting the badge?
    – BSMP
    Nov 3, 2022 at 17:55
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    @NotTheDr01ds is it possible you didn't leave the vote up long enough? Not that I think you should risk permanently sticking someone with a down vote but maybe the code awarding the badge waits a minute or two (but not the full five minutes before you can't retract it) before awarding it?
    – BSMP
    Nov 3, 2022 at 18:00

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Based on some testing, I think you probably received Critic based on a double-click or double-tap on the Downvote button (originally proposed as a theory by @VLAZ in the comments).

As mentioned in the comments, I tried to test this yesterday by downvoting a random question on ServerFault, where I have downvoting privileges but did not have the Critic badge. I quickly retracted the vote a few seconds later to avoid having it stick.

While I mentioned in the comments that this did not trigger the Critic badge, I was wrong -- I simply didn't wait long enough. When I checked again today, I now have the Critic badge. The retracted downvote did trigger its award, but it didn't show up until the batch process ran -- probably within the hour of when I tried it, since both my comment above and the award show as 19 hours ago currently.

Interestingly, the notification of being awarded Critic badge still does not show up in my "Achievements" (the trophy icon) Notifications even though other badge awards do.

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  • Can the documentation for the Critic badge be updated to advise accordingly, which is where I went initially. I note that I am not the first to have this "problem" and presumably will not be the last, eg, here and there are others too.
    – petern0691
    Nov 3, 2022 at 20:20
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    @petern0691 Well, I don't know that documenting it is necessarily the right thing to do, as it seems to me to be an "unintended behavior." It's not like you just want to tell people "double-click on the downvote button to get the badge but not have it count as an actual downvote" ;-). I mean, sure, they can read it here and do it, but putting the info directly on the badge help seems unnecessary. Nov 3, 2022 at 20:37
  • And the question you linked to was caused by a different issue -- A deleted question after the vote. Not saying that you are the first to have this happen, but you may (not sure if there is another potential duplicate) be the first person to notice it! Nov 3, 2022 at 20:37
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    "the notification of being awarded Critic badge still does not show up" After a certain point (association bonus maybe?) they stop giving you notifications for "trivial" badges. Otherwise you would get a lot of pointless notifications.
    – Laurel
    Nov 4, 2022 at 2:23
  • Sorry re duplicate. I meant to link this one.
    – petern0691
    Nov 4, 2022 at 4:41
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    Re documentation. A long long time ago I was told, "If the bug/design flaw is not damaging, and does not NEED fixing then document it and call it a feature."
    – petern0691
    Nov 4, 2022 at 4:44

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