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I am looking for an answer to the following scenario:

Somebody is searching the correct syntax to combine INSERT INTO and a CTE in . However, search engines only yield some popular Stack Overflow questions in other comparable, but ultimately incompatible technologies. After figuring out the right syntax the user posts an answer on a popular question tagged "for discoverability reasons". Is this fine - in general or for discoverability's sake? Liable to downvoting? Or actually not-an-answer?

The linked answers address a slightly different scenario, i.e. interchangeable technologies (JavaScript vs. CSS) or different technologies within the same stack (Java Grid Controls).

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    My gut feeling is that the appropriate way to increase the visibility would be for the user to find an existing Big Query question that this answer fits, or ask a new one and self answer, then comment on the easier to find tsql question with something like: "For anyone who lands here when looking for how to do this in Google Big Query, see this question for the proper syntax." But I feel like there's already a Meta question about this with better guidance, I just can't find it.
    – Davy M
    Dec 27, 2018 at 23:06
  • @DavyM thanks, good points. I also had the idea to suggest creating a new question (if needed). But I am still wondering.
    – wp78de
    Dec 27, 2018 at 23:23
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    @DavyM I think it should be an answer - could you convert your comment into one? Even if someone finds good duplicate later so be it... at least we can vote on proposal in mean time. Dec 27, 2018 at 23:30
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    In this specific case can we assume that the right syntax is not valid tsql? The person landing on that popular question is presumably looking for a query that will run in ms sql (or possibly sybase) products. If they try the query in the answer, and it does not work then is it truly of high quality? Dec 28, 2018 at 5:36
  • @ElliottFrisch exactly, it wont work in that environment as intended.
    – wp78de
    Dec 28, 2018 at 6:58
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  • If it's utterly useless (i.e. can't help at all, even tangentially, as it's not translatable) for the actual question then its clearly not an answer.
    – user5940189
    Dec 28, 2018 at 13:12
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    Moreover, it is dubious that attaching the answer to a different-technology question would improve its discoverability. At least, when I'm scanning Google results, I mentally filter based on headline, and if an SO hit passes that then I further filter by the question details before paying attention to any answers. I suppose anyone who uses search engines effectively does similar, so I don't think intentionally misplacing an answer as described helps much of anyone. Dec 28, 2018 at 13:39
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    Lets build some quality. If this need a question under the correct tag so be it. We don't post C# answer on Php tag for more visibility. Either we have a answer that will fit at hand or we create one. If we could create a good one It may ends being a good duplicate target for previously existing question Under this tag tha escape our research Dec 28, 2018 at 14:31
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    I generally downvote these and vote to delete where possible. It may increase visibility for one constituency but it has an adverse effect on the signal to noise ratio for others who then have to plough through answers not remotely relevant to their platform Dec 28, 2018 at 16:12
  • About 'off topic' answer flag.
    – user202729
    Dec 29, 2018 at 8:40
  • The short answer to that is "no". The long answer is "f**k no". - goodreads.com/quotes/…
    – Ian Kemp
    Dec 30, 2018 at 19:57

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Is this fine - in general or for discoverability's sake?

In cases where there is no interoperability/interchangeable code, this is definitely not OK, and such answers should be downvoted and deleted, for the same reason that it's not OK for fifteen answers that all give the same exact solution: this content is not useful.

If you are looking for how to Foo a Bar in, say, the Klingon programming language, and someone posts an answer on how to Foo a Bar when using the Esperanto programming language, that's not helpful or useful to you, nor is it likely to be useful to people trying to do it in Esperanto... because they won't be looking for their solution in a question about doing something in the Klingon language.

The linked answers address a slightly different scenario, i.e. interchangeable technologies (JavaScript vs. CSS)

To speak to your specific example, I even strongly dislike and discourage this with things that are quite interoperable like CSS and JavaScript. While JS can apply CSS styles, my recommendation is always "don't provide a JS answer" unless the OP explicitly mentions they're willing to use non-CSS solutions, or if the thing literally cannot be done at all in CSS (but can in JS), but preferably only after explaining that/why it can't be done in CSS.

In another scenario, I would feel frustrated if I asked how to do something in ASP.NET with WebForms and someone gave an answer along the lines of - "here's how you do this in MVC".


Or actually not-an-answer?

Do not, however, flag such a thing as "Not An Answer"; it will get declined due to the gymnastic interpretation of that flag by moderators and users. The current consensus (if you can call it that) is that, despite the verbiage of the NAA flag's description, something is only validly NAA if it could not possibly be an answer to any question on the site.

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  • Thanks for the answer, especially the part on NNA flag interpretations. I already got a few of those declined - this is also why I hesitated and asked instead here.
    – wp78de
    Dec 28, 2018 at 19:48
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    I've been declined a NAA flag even to an answer that couldn't have been an answer to any question to the site... It was a poem that made zero sense in the context of any question. The current interpretation of NAA is that the NAA matches one of the alternatives: link only, asks a question, "I have the same problem", "thanks", "edit to post" - if it does not look like any of these in the first 2 seconds of viewing, it is a non-NAA. Dec 28, 2018 at 20:16
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    @Antti Now I really want to read that poem.
    – yivi
    Dec 28, 2018 at 20:42
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    "it will get declined due to the gymnastic interpretation of that flag by moderators and some users" if I came along such review, I would vote for recommend deletion. If I found it while having delete votes on answers, I would also vote to delete.
    – Braiam
    Dec 28, 2018 at 20:44
  • For example, the following kinds of "answers" are not NAA: "I am not going to show you because it is too long, but here are links to some random tutorials" - the other answers do answer in post in a text of half-screen length. Dec 28, 2018 at 21:00
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    I usually follow Shog's guide (the image with the apples) when flagging answers and it works wonders. Of course sometimes the moderator disagrees with me but it's normal, and it's marginal in the long run. Most of the times they will also follow this guide, which removes most of the ambiguities, and validate the flag. In this specific case, I usually flag Very Low Quality if the answer uses language/technology different from the question (and leave a comment asking the poster to edit it with the relevant language/technology).
    – Eric Aya
    Dec 28, 2018 at 21:49
  • @Braiam Yes, there are some bastions of sense left on the subject of course...
    – TylerH
    Dec 28, 2018 at 22:03
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    @AnttiHaapala Actually a link-only answer is one valid example of NAA (see the link in Moritz' comment below yours, specifically the apple diagram).
    – TylerH
    Dec 28, 2018 at 22:04
  • @TylerH but it is not a link-only answer. It says that answer would be too long and then the link. Dec 28, 2018 at 22:05
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    @AnttiHaapala That still qualifies as link-only according to everyone I think you'll find approving or rejecting NAA flags.
    – TylerH
    Dec 28, 2018 at 22:06
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    @AnttiHaapala that's the equivalent of putting a sign to where to buy apples.
    – Braiam
    Dec 28, 2018 at 23:10
  • s/gymnastic/inane
    – Ian Kemp
    Dec 29, 2018 at 16:38
  • For older answers which collected lots of upvotes, "downvote and then delete" is not really practical. For example stackoverflow.com/a/4073833 or stackoverflow.com/q/7150998
    – user202729
    Dec 30, 2018 at 5:33
  • @user202729 It's implied that you should do each of those things only when possible. E.g. advice to downvote is likewise not useful for people with less than 250 rep.
    – TylerH
    Dec 30, 2018 at 5:54
  • @Moritz I also think that Shog's apples diagram makes a good argument. However I know I've seen Shog himself say that it wasn't accurate even at the time he posted it. So, YMMV. Dec 30, 2018 at 21:46

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