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This tag has been burninated. Please do not recreate it. If you need advice on which tag to use, see the answer below. If you see this tag reappearing, it may need to be blacklisted.


The tag:

  1. Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous?

    Questions tagged with can live without it. They usually refer to a music-related application, which doesn't have any added value when it has the tag.

  2. Is the concept described even on-topic for the site?

    Most of the top questions of this tag are off-topic and can be closed.

  3. Does the tag add any meaningful information to the post?

    No. Most of the questions I came through are general and refer to music applications, not programming.

  4. Does it mean the same thing in all common contexts?

    Mmm... I think so.

So, what do you think?

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  • Wouldn't it be better to replace it with a sound-generation tag? Feb 4, 2018 at 11:19
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    @AyushGupta depends on the questions. Also, why should a question about a program which only purpose is generate sound, does not have the name of the program and instead something vague?
    – Braiam
    Feb 4, 2018 at 16:24
  • Agree with @Braiam -- You can't just replace. It could be related to midi, audio-streaming, etc. Feb 4, 2018 at 20:13
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    Technically creating music with code rather than a program is a thing... I don't see it happening that many questions will be about that topic though. It'd probably be more under a topic of 64k/4k programming.
    – Gimby
    Feb 5, 2018 at 15:25
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    Tag was created "9 years, 6 months ago" -- wow, now I'd call that oldies radio! (I'll get my coat).
    – user50049
    Feb 9, 2018 at 14:34
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    Stats at the start of featuring: Q: +82/-1, No answers. Dec 25, 2018 at 17:06
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    Moderator Note: Please do not start removing the tag from questions until the community has decided whether to move forward with the burnination or not. Dec 25, 2018 at 17:07
  • Official music video of this request youtube.com/watch?v=yd8jh9QYfEs
    – Braiam
    Dec 26, 2018 at 20:00
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    @BhargavRao: This question was asked in February. How long do we have to wait? Dec 26, 2018 at 21:47
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    @RobertHarvey I usually wait for 36~48 hours after featuring to unfeature and decide whether to continue with the burnination or not. I get it that the decision is quite clear in this case, but just in case a top user in that tag has a word or two to say. (Just to put the backlog of burn requests into perspective, [movement] was [featured] and burninated, 5 years 4 months and 600 new questions after it was requested) Dec 27, 2018 at 6:41
  • @Braiam It looks the day the [music] died is upon us: youtube.com/watch?v=7yHTpGog0IY Dec 27, 2018 at 18:27
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    Stats at the end of featuring: Q: 127/-7, A1 (saying Yes): +13/-1, A2 (saying Yes): +28/-1, A3 (saying Yes): +10/0, A4 (saying Yes): +7/0. The community has voted in favor of the burnination. Dec 27, 2018 at 22:17
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    I think that [music] questions are being too often closed as "too broad" now for some questions that are actually quite specific -- I ask the community to more often retag than close for too broad (most of the off-topic for recommending library closes have been perfect). Jan 8, 2019 at 18:42

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has been burninated.

trogdor

Thanks to everyone who participated.

Observations/Retag Guidance:

  • Use for questions related to the cross-platform GUI library, Juce.
  • Use for questions related to the MIDI protocol.
  • Use for generating or processing scores or guitar tabs.
  • Use for algorithmic/software approaches to music theory including identifying chords.
  • Use for just playing a sound.
  • Use for approaches to extracting pitch or other information from a wave or sound file.
  • Use for more complex software (up to DAWs)
  • Use custom tags like , , or when relevant

Progress:

The tag is in the process of being burninated. You can help out by reviewing the questions with this tag, and...

  • editing questions to improve the question and remove the tag (retag-only edits are best left to users with full edit privileges; i.e. > 2k reputation),
  • flagging/voting to close questions that are duplicates/off-topic/unclear/too broad/opinion-based (users with < 3k reputation can help quite a bit by flagging questions for closure, which helps keep the Close Vote Review Queue full),
  • filtering for questions with this tag in the Close Vote Queue,
  • voting on questions with this tag,
  • voting to delete the questions with this tag (after they have been closed, and only if the entire Q&A contains nothing of value). However, keep in mind that at the end of the burnination process all closed questions containing this tag will be deleted automatically. Thus, there's rarely a need to vote to delete these questions.

Here are some quick links to get you started:

Track the progress of the burnination!

Details:

Large Tag Guidance

Remember that has more than 2400 questions. Therefore do not go through all of them! Retag the ones which are worth saving (usually the top voted posts) and vote to close the unsalvageable questions (usually the very low scored).

Remember that burnination is a clean-up effort!

Salvage whatever possible by editing and re-tagging.

We don't want to destroy value, so salvaging a post should be your first priority. If a question can be saved, please edit it. Your edit should improve all problems with the question and remove the tag, possibly replacing it with another tag, as described above in "Observations/Retag Guidance".

Unsalvageable questions should just be flagged/voted for closure. They don't need to be retagged.

If the question is not appropriate for this site, then don't worry about removing the tag —just flag/vote to close the question.

At the end of the burnination process, all questions which still have the tag should have been closed. These will be mass-deleted, which will remove the tag from the system automatically, with minimal disruption.

Ask for help if you need it.

If you have any questions about specific questions you come across, or the process in general, please feel free to leave a comment on this post. You can also drop into the SOCVR chat room for real-time advice and discussion.

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    "At the end of the burnination process, all questions which still have the music tag should have been closed. These will be mass-deleted, which will remove the tag from the system automatically, with minimal disruption." -- I thought the burnination process only deleted closed, tagged, and negative score questions. Jan 17, 2019 at 5:35
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    @MichaelScottCuthbert, for large tags, yes. For others, no. This is a large tag, so only the closed negative scored questions will be deleted. The entire thing is written for normal tags. The different method for large tags started very recently, and we need to update the main meta. Jan 17, 2019 at 9:50
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Having reviewed a few pages of questions tagged , I don't see anything that is not better serviced with more precise tags such as or or or or similar. There doesn't seem to be any field of knowledge, expertise, or interest that the tag helps target. Even interest in music in general doesn't tie the questions together in any meaningful way that improves the taxonomy of the site or help people navigate to things they are interested in.

Let it burn.

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  • I remember answering a few questions about waveform programming, but they were all tagged audio not music. I guess I have no objection. Dec 27, 2018 at 4:38
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    "Let it burn, let it burn, gotta let it burn.... deep down you know it’s best.." - Usher. Just bringing it full circle with some music Dec 27, 2018 at 18:36
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I write music, I write code for music, whether using midi, audio, and any kind of synthesis.

I don't think is enough on its own. The sheer amount of different topics (midi, audio, different subtypes of synthesis) will almost always make something with just too broad or unclear. Lots of them will not even belong to SO. So having may even be worrying because of the question belong to stats.SE, maths.SE or software engineering.SE

If one were to use the tag to find an interested topic, then again, the tag would not be precise enough because if I search something on music, it actually be related to , or , or something else.

So let it burn.

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A quick look at the tag description for makes it seem like a reasonable tag and there are perhaps a lot of questions misusing it. However, when looking at the two examples of "good use of the music tag" questions in the description (one closed, the other should be as off topic), and the top questions for the tag (several are closed, others look to be either off topic, don't need the music tag, or just don't benefit from it) it would seem that it isn't adding anything useful to the questions.

Much as I like to listen to music, I say we should let the tag burn.

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I have been trying for some time to set the music tag to refer only to those questions that refer to computer approaches to music that cannot be applied to any audio/sound file or to the specifics of midi, such as generating music notation or computational music theory. (I wrote the current tag description for music).

But it seems to be a losing battle, and it'd probably be easier to make and tags -- they won't have nearly as many questions tagged with it as "music" currently does, but it'd be much easier for someone to find those questions any how.

I'd be happy to let it burn, but I'd like to try to take some time to retag the small percentage of properly tagged questions with the new tags first.

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    Feel free to join in the burnination effort by retagging those small percentage of questions that you are familiar with. We do spend 2 to 3 weeks cleaning the tag before removing the tag from the system. Dec 27, 2018 at 22:28
  • Thanks! I've created [music-notation[ and [music-theory] but I'm a bit low on rep. to get automatic edits accepted, so I'm retagging as I can. thx! Dec 28, 2018 at 4:50
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    Remember to not suggest just retags, try to correct all the issues with the post and add the tag. Also add the retag guidance to the CW answer, so that others also know to use that tag while they're cleaning up the [music] tag. Dec 28, 2018 at 6:32
  • Thanks to all who have helped with the moving on [music-notation] and giving wiki descriptions to [music-notation] and [music-theory] -- most of the questions with the retagging to these categories were high quality questions and didn't need editing. Jan 2, 2019 at 6:56
  • Someone seems to have deleted the music-theory -- strange... Jan 8, 2019 at 18:39

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