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Got banned after being banned for stuff such as:

Imho, a duplicate question is actually a good way lead more people to a desired answer. People, who are looking for it using different keywords.

  • I also got downvoted by people giving leaving comments such as "the questions shows lack of knowledge on the subject". Ok, Next time I'll ask when I'm educated enough to know the answer.

I do ask honest question, after I do my homework and after I check other questions. I am polite and upvote good answers. I thank all those who did not look down on my questions and took the time to answer them.

So here I am, about to create another account, so I can continue asking, since somebody thought it is a good idea to ban me for a full-frikkin-half-year. How does a 6 month ban help anyone? Why not 3? Why not 12? What is supposed to happen during that time?

Dupe edit: There are only three sentences with question marks, at the end, which, together with the title make up the question. Very clear I believe, not duplicate, asking about the 6 month period. The "duplicate" part is actually unique, related to my specific situation, explaining I was asking honest questions, got great answers, helful to me and others (or asked not-to-smart-ones and removed them). But here I am with a six month ban.

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    You are supposed to take some time to think on how your strategy has not been working so far, and hopefully learn to better use the site to achieve better results. For you, and for everyone else.
    – yivi
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 13:33
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    Hi, Im low rep like you. First you don't get ban for duplicate. You get ban for negative score question. And a duplicate is not a bad thing the community agree about this. Most of your question is about dupe. Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 13:34
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    You haven't been question banned for the questions you are linking. Those have not downvotes. You have been banned for other questions, that you must have deleted.
    – yivi
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 13:34
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    "So here I am, about to create another account, so I can continue asking" Don't do this. If the mods catch you, and with you saying here that you're planning to that's likely, your new account will likely either be merged with the old or outright deleted. You'd be making a new account to get around the automated ban system which is a huge no-go.
    – Kendra
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 13:35
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    @Marko36 "Thinking they're dumb" isn't the point of downvotes, it's a quality ranking system. Is it possible at least one downvote you've received is what you said here? Sure, anything's possible. But unless someone has explicitly told you that's why they downvoted, you really can't know for sure.
    – Kendra
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 13:41
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    Two duplicate closed questions with a 0/0 score definitely don't cause a question ban.
    – BDL
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 13:41
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    "I have deleted some questions, after I got answers pointing out" That counts pretty heavily against you. See this answer from one of the Stack Overflow Team for proof of that.
    – Kendra
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 13:44
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    @Marko36 That question is 100% about the question ban. That's what you're in right now, or very close to. If you want out of it, that question is the only answer. My judgement of this being a duplicate was indeed not condescending, it was my trying to get you the information you need as quick as possible so you can use it to help yourself.
    – Kendra
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 13:46
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    @Marko36 There is no condescension here or judgement. Marking a question as a duplicate is not supposed to be derogatory, it helps you get the information you want faster. Answer me this, if you walked into a library looking for some information out of a book, would you rather the librarian called up an author and got them to write a new book for you that could take weeks or would you rather they pointed you in the direction of an existing book? It is the same with duplicates, all we're doing is saying that the book is already written, here it is. Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 13:49
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    @Marko36 I imagine the 6 month length has been chosen more or less arbitrarily. If you want to propose that the ban length should be different you are welcome to write a feature-request detailing why would it be a good idea, what's wrong with the current implementation, and exactly what time length do you propose, and how did you arrive at the choice of such a length. You have to consider that since you are currently question banned, your question will probably be seen as biased, though.
    – yivi
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:11
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    @Marko36 I didn't answer your question, no. But you didn't answer mine. I'd be happy for you to stick around as a contributor to the site, at no point did I tell you to leave. You are as welcome here as I am. Now, if you'd like to tell us all why you think 6 months is too long of a period for a ban I'm sure we'd be happy to discuss this with you as calm, understanding adults. Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:22
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    @Marko36 I don't think your account is useless and it'd be a damn shame if you did delete it. You have questions and answers that have quite clearly helped people, hence being accepted and upvoted. It would be unfortunate to lose those and your future as a contributor over this. Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:30
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    @Marko36 You can get out of the ban before the 6 month point, you just have to try. It's hard work, but it is entirely possible. Also, from the linked duplicate, "If you opt to delete your account and then later return to the site, your ability to ask questions may be limited to one question per week until you have demonstrated an ability to ask useful questions." So it's 100% feasible to delete and restart, but you will be rate limited.
    – Kendra
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:41
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    That is entirely understandable, and if you think 6 months is a bit long, again, post a request specifically about that. Post honestly how you got into this situation, and why you honestly think that the punishment is a bit harsh for the crime, and what you would suggest instead and why that's better than the status quo. If the SO developers agree, it's in their power to change it.
    – deceze Mod
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:56
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    The ban needs to be long enough to ensure the receiver notices it, and doesn't ignore it and just wait it out. It also has to incentivize the behaviour we want here; showing effort, writing clear, concise questions, doing research, and generally not being a drain on the community. If you could just wait out the ban, all that happens is cause more problems for the community down the road. If you want to ask another question, it benefits you and the community to adhere to our guidelines and standards.
    – fbueckert
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 18:14

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Those are not the questions you were banned for. They have not been downvoted. What you have been banned and downvoted for are gems such as:

  • Good publishing platform for an IT blog
  • Wanted: Simple Node.js cloud hosting
  • Do the benefits of Node being async outweigh the troubles it brings?

The first two are blatantly off-topic, the latter one is borderline technical and on-topic, but heavily discussion focused and thereby off-topic. And those weren't even beginner mistakes, you've been on the site for a while before asking those; you should know the ropes by now. Overall, you have a borderline track record with your questions, with some having been well received and some just being very hit and miss. And you just happened to dip beyond the threshold and are blocked for the time being.

Please be careful in the future not to ask blatantly off-topic questions and you should be able to stay on the right side of the threshold.

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  • How are these off-topic? What topic? Where else should have I asked them?
    – marko-36
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:05
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    Sounds like you really need to read stackoverflow.com/help/on-topic.
    – deceze Mod
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:07
  • Did it. But then I came across some very general, but very helpful "off-topic" stuff such as stackoverflow.com/questions/2353818/…
    – marko-36
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:10
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    Uhm… that is closed as off-topic by Ry-♦ Feb 19 at 12:12.
    – deceze Mod
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:13
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    For historical reasons such posts might be kept around, but don't use them as justification to post your own off-topic questions.
    – deceze Mod
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:14
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    meta.stackexchange.com/tags/broken-windows/info
    – gnat
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:14
  • @deceze Exactly. But look at the upvotes. My point is, that even though a bunch of elders deem a question "off-topic", it can still be very popular and helpful. Same goes for "duplicate". This question of mine is def not dupe, although marked as such - 6 month period I am asking about remains unanswered.
    – marko-36
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:16
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    Firstly, age has nothing to do with the ability to mark something as off-topic. Anyone with 15 reputation can flag a post as off topic. Secondly, the duplicate clearly explains the ban process, why it happened and the steps to take to ensure it does not happen again. You have asked multiple questions here where you should only have asked 1. If you want to know why a 6 month ban period is the standard, I would suggest you first look for an existing question and then raise another if one does not exist. Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:19
  • asked: 8 years, 7 months ago and viewed: 1,186,426 times for 1266. For you it look like good question statistically it's noise. Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:19
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    @Marko36 Such questions exactly informed the decision to make them off-topic. That question is a heap of random links now. Not much more useful than Google really, and Google at least removes stale links.
    – deceze Mod
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:21
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    @Marko36 According to the timeline of that post, the last time it was voted on in either direction was back in 2013. A lot has changed about what is/is not on-topic since then. Also of note... It was closed even back then. A moderator, really a community Team member, is the only reason it was reopened back then.
    – Kendra
    Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:21
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    No vote on this question for years, it's just a link cimetery. No one want to maintain. Prone to become flood by spam. Commented Sep 27, 2018 at 14:23

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