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The criteria for the curious and inquisitive badges are far too easy to obtain.

As an example, this user has only about a third of the questions with a positive count. So two thirds of the questions were either ignored or not well received. Is this really behaviour to be encouraged by awarding an inquisitive (silver) badge?

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    The badge description includes "... and maintained a positive question record". Wouldn't they fail this condition if two thirds of their question were ignored or not well received? Jul 18, 2014 at 7:07
  • I think as long as he has more upvotes than downvotes on his questions he will stay in the black. But perhaps a question with no upvotes shouldn't count as a well received question. Jul 18, 2014 at 10:07
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    The user still has a positive question record; they don't have enough posts that are closed or deleted or with a negative score to bring the ratio down.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jul 18, 2014 at 11:53
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    Also, the user asked nearly 500 questions and did not get the gold Socratic badge. They did not get their Inquisitive badge easily if they needed to ask hundreds of questions.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jul 18, 2014 at 11:53
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    Several questions with thousands of views but a vote count of only +1. That suggests the titles are "click bait": they promise to be useful for a commonly found problem but do not provide useful information about that problem.
    – Raedwald
    Jul 18, 2014 at 11:59
  • The badge was designed to make question grinding difficult. I think it safe to say that not many people will ask 500+ questions in order to get a silver badge. It's also clear that the badges did not motivate the questions in this case, since the user didn't know the badge would exist when they asked most of their questions. So while we didn't eliminate every edge case, we made it a lot harder to get silver or gold than just asking a lot of questions. Jul 21, 2014 at 23:58

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That user did not get the badge easily

They have asked nearly 500 questions but don't have a Socratic badge yet! That Inquisitive badge only required 30 days with good questions, the question to ask is why they haven't reached 100 such days yet.

Their overall record is good enough. With so many questions asked, their ratio of downvoted, closed or deleted posts against their total has not fallen below 0.5; e.g. more than half of those questions were not terrible. Remember that a post that is downvoted and closed and deleted counts 3 times in that formula.

Purely from their current stats you'd expect them to have the Socratic badge already, see this data explorer query. What that query cannot take into account is deleted posts however. Clearly there have been at least some deletions, making any day with questions that are now deleted ineligible for the badge.

All this means that the goals for the badges are being met!

And just to be explicit: The badge is not awarded because you asked great questions! That's what the per-question badges are for. The badge is there to reward regularly asking questions, without allowing you to game the system by throwing bad (off-topic, low quality) questions at the site. And that's exactly what this user has been doing, asking regularly.

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    When someone has 500 questions having around half of them be bad questions is hundreds of bad questions. That's a real problem. A real problem. Having half of your questions be bad questions when you have 10 is one thing, but if someone is failing to learn how to ask good questions fairly regularly once they have more than several dozen they're doing something really wrong. These patterns are indicative of throwing a lot of crap at a wall and just seeing what sticks without just learning how to ask a good question.
    – Servy
    Jul 18, 2014 at 16:10
  • @Servy: they are not bad. They are mediocre. If they were bad they'd be downvoted (counting once), and / or closed (counting again). As it is there are at least 19 deleted questions, so those count separately against the ratio. But as it is the user did not piss us off, which is what we want.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jul 18, 2014 at 16:12
  • @Servy: the ratio calculation already takes this into account. This user is probably at the edge, there will always be edge cases, increasing the ratio or the requirements is going to shut out a whole lot of legitimate users that are doing better than this.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jul 18, 2014 at 16:13
  • @Servy: the same applies to the Unsung Hero badge otherwise; if you give enough mediocre accepted answers, you get that badge. Or you can be answering great in a low-traffic badge, which was the goal of the badge.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jul 18, 2014 at 16:14
  • @MartijnPieters: Mentioned user did ruin prolog for some time. People simply gave up on down voting him.
    – false
    Jul 18, 2014 at 18:38
  • @false: then you only have yourself to blame that this user now has a badge. Don't stop downvoting if the user posts bad questions!
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jul 18, 2014 at 18:39
  • @MartijnPieters: If you consider trying to help as something to blame for (that's what the few did in the beginning), I would have to agree.
    – false
    Jul 18, 2014 at 18:42
  • @MartijnPieters: Thanks for that advice: My downvotes were now detected as "serial" down votes.
    – false
    Jul 20, 2014 at 21:49
  • @false: I did not tell you to go downvote everything in sight, I think you very much misinterpreted that advice.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jul 20, 2014 at 21:55
  • @MartijnPieters: I only downvoted those that from my understanding of the matter deserved it. That again is something I have to blame myself for...
    – false
    Jul 20, 2014 at 22:24

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