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If an answer which includes a link for a crucial part of an answer is frowned upon, should questions that use *fiddle.com for a critical part of the question be treated similarly, ie: as a link only question? Should questions be self contained?

For the avoidance of doubt, I don't want to ban these sites, but surely visiting them should not be essential to answering the question? Can their permanence be guaranteed more than any other linked site?

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Yes, visiting another site to get part of the question is definitely discouraged. All of the code required to reproduce the problem faced should be posted in the body of the question. An additional link to another site for a demo is fine, but it's not enough by itself.

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    So should it be closed? If so, what reason? "Unclear what you're asking?"
    – podiluska
    Jun 13, 2014 at 11:11
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    @podiluska On the Close dialog, select "off-topic because..." There's a new close reason listed under there for this kind of question. "Questions seeking debugging help ("why isn't this code working?") must include the desired behavior, a specific problem or error and the shortest code necessary to reproduce it in the question itself. Questions without a clear problem statement are not useful to other readers. See: How to create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example." Jun 13, 2014 at 12:02
  • But they're not necessarily seeking debugging help. Eg: stackoverflow.com/questions/24203609/…
    – podiluska
    Jun 13, 2014 at 12:41
  • @podiluska Then yes, in that case "unclear what you're asking" is the close reason I'd use. Make sure to leave a comment explaining why you voted that way. Jun 13, 2014 at 13:08
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The system already detects when a JSFiddle link is posted without a code block or inline code, it then disallows posting.

When you see a Fiddle and the code is not in the question, you can either ask the OP to add it or you can add it to the question yourself.

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    Adding it to the question yourself doesn't really educate the person asking the question; they need to learn that they should be including these things in their questions from the start. If you're going to edit it yourself you'll also need to comment explaining what you've done and why, and making it clear that they should be doing it in future. Jun 13, 2014 at 12:48
  • iirc some people circumvent this by adding a single or only a few lines of code. Just want to say that this solution is not perfect either. Jun 13, 2014 at 13:29
  • @Trilarion I know, the check is rather simple, but it does prevent a lot of questions with just a Fiddle.
    – user247702
    Jun 13, 2014 at 13:31

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