First Things First: This Thread is Not a Duplicate of an Open Thread
Do not mark this thread as a duplicate of any of the following three threads, because it is a substantially different proposal based on a fundamentally different premise:
Would it be a terrible idea to split SO up into a tiered platform?
Create a new Stack Overflow instance for beginner users and content
Those three threads suggested splitting Stack Overflow based on the criteria of reputation or skill level, but they failed to address the real problem, because reputation and skill level are mostly orthogonal to whether questions fit Stack Overflow's mission. There may be one or two more that I've missed, but by and large I've done my research on existing threads.
The following closed thread proposes splitting Stack Overflow based on the type of question content (the same basis upon which all Stack Exchange sites are divided), and it was incorrectly marked as a duplicate of those three and closed:
Why don't we have an SE site for programming help vampires?
This thread IS essentially a duplicate of that one, but it is to my knowledge the only open one of its kind. I created it by following the advice given in the close notice:
This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
just.another.programmer's thread was closed before its proposal could be seriously discussed by the site at large, but the comment thread for that post is a must-read. In an attempt to reopen wider discussion on the matter and avoid closure this time, I will do my best to argue a more comprehensive case. Therefore, I ask that anyone who considers this "tl;dr" keep in mind that the length was in response to just.another.programmer's more concise version being closed.
Scale and Bad Questions are Indeed a Concern
The general feeling among experienced Stack Overflow members seems to be that the system has become broken. There are two widely acknowledged reasons:
The scale has vastly increased, and questions pour in faster than anyone can answer them.
The apparent quality of questions has declined. People apparently like grumbling about this, as evidenced by the half a thousand upvotes on the question and answer (compare and contrast to suggested solutions being downvoted into oblivion and closed).
There are also several apparent reasons for the decline in question quality:
Increased exposure has attracted a larger number of users. Even if the new users have the same general makeup/distribution as in the past, this still leads to a much higher absolute number of bad questions.
The proportion of bad questions may have even increased, due to newer users being an unwashed barbarian horde (or maybe that's just an illusion due to the other factors causing veteran burnout and stress).
Part of this is because the existing database of good answered questions has raised the bar for new ones: The most widely applicable good questions have already been asked and answered for most languages/technologies/etc. As a result, many new questions which would otherwise be good are actually duplicates (or apparent duplicates) of old answered questions.
All of these concerns are likely valid, but the scale issue in particular is the most troublesome, because it would strain any programming help site of any purpose or mission. It would be really nice if it became "some other programming site's problem" though, wouldn't it? To a large extent it could though, if we resolved the other underlying issue, an "elephant in the room" which is not being seriously discussed beyond a misleading "caretakers, help vampires, rep whores, apathetic" breakdown meme:
Two Distinct Communities are Fighting Over Stack Overflow
Someone asked an interesting question a few days ago: Why do people actually go to other Q&A communities for coding questions other than StackOverflow?
It's interesting for the following reason: The Stack Exchange format is far better than Usenet or forums at resolving almost any kind of question, due to its better ability to stay on topic and dodge the N^2 complexity implications of two-way conversations. A new user with no idea about Stack Overflow's mission would indeed wonder, "Why the heck WOULDN'T I use Stack Overflow for everything?"
However, Servy wrote the correct answer: Stack Overflow has a particular mission that dramatically limits the scope of site-relevant questions. coding_hero's answer was also insightful: As a consequence of that mission, Stack Overflow veterans are hostile to anything that falls outside of that specific mission.
As I understand it, Stack Overflow's mission is to serve as a searchable repository of unique but widely applicable design questions or questions about the nuances of a language, API, or technology. The "caretakers" of the meme hold this mission very dear, and they see it as their sworn duty to identify questions outside this mission and "kill them with fire." On a relative scale, this could be considered the "cathedral" mentality.
However, most actually treat Stack Overflow like a "coworkers' help desk," where coworkers just exchange advice on any programming-related issue that's too specific for Programmers. On a relative scale, this could be considered the "bazaar" mentality. A lot of veterans will argue, "Stack Overflow isn't meant for that, so take your crap elsewhere," but the truth is the Stack Exchange format is quite versatile and still more conducive to these kind of questions than any alternative.
It may be appropriate to categorize the least effortful of these users as "help vampires," but it's a term that seems to be applied overly broadly. For instance, there are a lot of borderline cases where the user's question may or may not be applicable to other people in the futureMaybe they're trying to debug a logic error, but they're stuck and require a fresh pair of eyes. The site is becoming increasingly skeptical of debugging questions for instance, and separating the good ones from the bad ones can be highly subjective.
These users who actually provide assistance to "help vampires" real and imagined are often derided as "rep whores," but the charges are unfortunate: The accused "rep whores" are often low-rep users answering the only questions they can. Many just want to "give back" so they can avoid feeling like "help vampires" themselves. (I sometimes feel this way: I ask questions that I believe to be good and within Stack Overflow's mission, but as a non-senior-level programmer with narrow experience, I feel too impotent to answer any of the other good questions, so my question-to-answer ratio is quite poor.) Others are only trying to scrounge up enough points to let them fully participate on the site. Somewhat hypocritically, the posters calling them "rep whores" are generally veteran users who amassed tens or even hundreds of thousands of rep points by answering similar softball questions back when they were new/unique...and who continually receive an income of upvotes on their old answers, which they spend on curbstomping the "rep whores." Meanwhile, neither camp usually has the expertise to answer the body of unanswered old questions or "good new questions," partially because they're hard to find and even harder to answer.
Moderation Alone Cannot Solve the Conflict
The competing mentalities are causing a lot of friction: On the one hand, a lot of potentially good and answerable questions could be getting closed too easily for prejudicial reasons (especially the ones wrongly perceived as duplicates). On the other hand, there are so many bad questions and questions outside of Stack Overflow's scope that moderators want/need even more powerful tools to deal with them.
The growing scale of Stack Overflow is increasingly requiring more "broad brush" moderation and snap judgments just to handle the deluge of questions, but this invites an escalating conflict where battle lines are being drawn between increasingly polarized participants: When our only options are to "leave in place, close, or delete," our only options are to enrage the purists or screw the people who genuinely need help (particularly people who post the debugging-style questions).
Many of the "caretakers" believe the solution is simply to make "help vampires" and "rep whores" feel so unwelcome on Stack Overflow they leave the Stack Exchange network entirely. These "go team, rah-rah" arguments get a lot of upvotes, but the real problem is there is no alternative help site that works as well for them as Stack Overflow does. If you're on the cynical side of the scale, you might argue, "Help vampires and rep whores are too filthy to deserve ANY site," but the truth is that until you give them one, they WILL continue to use and abuse this one. They'll get downvoted and thread-closed, and they'll be unhappy about, but they'll keep trying and fueling the escalating conflict over the "same land," because they don't see an alternative.
Give the "Troubleshooters" Their Own Community to Make Moderation More Effective
A better solution is to actually give these bad, "bad," and borderline questions a place to go, beyond the sight of those who hate them, but within reach of the people who just want to exchange help when they can. For Pete's sake, this isn't a conflict over physical land where there's natural scarcity: This is the Internet, and Stack Exchange already has a ton of purpose-specific sites. What's one more, especially when the existence of two distinct communities on Stack Overflow is so obvious there's a meme for it?
If you're one of the cynical types, please take Denis's comment from the other thread to heart: "Can we please have a ghetto where we can dump our crap?" This would also completely solve the problem with borderline threads and "threads we closed but which could be reopened under the right circumstances." Just MOVE them to the more-appropriate (and prominently advertised) site, and you won't have to deal with a huge close queue or hand-wringing over anything.
If Code Review didn't have such a narrow purpose itself, it could have been a good dumping ground for the borderline debugging questions and non-unique newbie questions...but it's not, because it does have its own purpose, and the bad questions in particular would be just as unwelcome there as they are here. Instead, there seem to be two real solutions, one suggested by just.another.programmer and the other suggested by BoltClock:
Create a new bazaar-like Stack Exchange site meant for programming help that's too specific for Programmers but too "help-desky" for Stack Overflow or Code Review. Prominently advertise it on Stack Overflow's question submission page. Moderators could then feel free to capriciously move huge numbers of bad/borderline questions to that site with little to no resistance, because the question will still exist somewhere in answerable form (and the best ones can always be moved back).
Assume the "help vampires" will always know only about Stack Overflow (the Google of programming), so accept inevitability, let it become a cess pool, and move the good questions to programmingquestionsthatactuallymatter.stackexchange.com, a new cathedral-like site (working name only ;)). Really, this would be a matter of moving all existing questions there, then gradually removing the unwelcome ones back to Stack Overflow.
Exclusively moderation-focused suggestions involving more closures and noob curbstomping may be more cathartic for some, but I believe anything less than splitting Stack Overflow into distinct cathedral and bazaar communities is just a band-aid. I submit this in the hope that serious well-reasoned arguments will follow regarding whether 1. or 2. is the more appropriate option for separating two classes of questions that clearly don't belong on the same site.
Your Input?
If you believe a site split is warranted, which direction would you prefer among the two above? If a site split is a bad idea, why is it a bad idea? Can you cite a reason why it would be inferior to the current close queue, or do you simply believe it would not help enough to justify the effort?