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The following question (not by me) was put on hold:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30004061/converting-minutes-and-hours-into-text-representations-in-java

And the cited reason was "off-topic":

Questions asking us to recommend or find a book, tool, software library, tutorial or other off-site resource are off-topic for Stack Overflow as they tend to attract opinionated answers and spam. Instead, describe the problem and what has been done so far to solve it.

Was this a mistake? The user made no request for "a book, tool, software library, tutorial or other off-site resource". The user was asking about converting numbers to words.

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    Part of the question was "if there is already a class for this it would help a lot". That most likely caused people to believe that it was looking for an off-site resource. May 3, 2015 at 3:23
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    He's wondering if a java class could potentially solve his problem. Asking about a java class is not asking about an off-site resource. This really seems like 1 person misread what the person was saying, and a few others did the knee-jerk piling on.
    – user4229245
    May 3, 2015 at 3:28
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    "Asking about a java class is not asking about an off-site resource" - given that Stack Overflow is not Java's documentation site: yes, it is.
    – jonrsharpe
    May 3, 2015 at 12:39
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    I'm sorry @jonrsharpe, but that's nonsense. There are many valid questions on how to do things on SO over the years that ask for particular facilities within various platforms/languages.
    – user4229245
    May 3, 2015 at 15:29
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    The OP was just asking someone to go and find existing code for them! The question showed no research effort whatsoever and certainly should have been put on hold, whether that was the most appropriate close reason or not. Your answer is link-only; take that out and all it says is "you could write code to do this" (no kidding!) "valid questions... over the years" is not a good argument; times change. Also, you'd probably get a better response to "I disagree because..." than "that's nonsense"; be nice.
    – jonrsharpe
    May 3, 2015 at 15:43
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    No, the OP was clearly more than willing to write it himself. Look at the comments, and look at his original question.
    – user4229245
    May 3, 2015 at 15:53
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    In any case, a moderator (or someone) thankfully reversed the [on hold], so hopefully we're done with this nonsense.
    – user4229245
    May 3, 2015 at 15:54
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    And right now 2 of the 3 answers link to an external resource. Wonderful.
    – ivarni
    May 3, 2015 at 17:10
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    @ivarni, That's a complaint of the answers, NOT of the question. I'm not contesting that the answers could be better if they included content of the links instead of just the links.
    – user4229245
    May 3, 2015 at 17:18

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Here's the original question:

I've tried looking this up but was unsuccessful. I'm using the SimpleDateFormat and Date class to get the current time. In the watch face I am developing for Android wear requires the text version of the time. For example, 8:30 would be "eight" and "thirty", 9:21 would be "nine" for the hour and "twenty one" for the minute. I'm not sure if this is possible without doing without writing the code manually, or if there is already a class for this it would help a lot. Please let me know if this is possible, thanks :)

That tells us what the OP is trying to do, but didn't show what they tried or where they're stuck. It's explicitly asking "if there is already a class for this" which is probably what attracted close votes to begin with. They then went on to edit the question with a solution (?) so the question probably should be closed. It's really not very high-quality, and is unlikely to help other people in its current state.

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  • The stated reason was this: "Questions asking us to recommend or find a book, tool, software library, tutorial or other off-site resource are off-topic for Stack Overflow". Despite whatever misgivings you have about the OP's qeustion formation, the stated reason does not apply to his question. He's asking about converting time numbers to words. That's all he was asking.
    – user4229245
    May 3, 2015 at 3:32
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    @tgm1024 1. I didn't vote to close the question, as you can see. 2. Yes, the stated reason does apply to the question. Most of that question isn't a question at all. May 3, 2015 at 3:33
  • Consider: If a person is unable to find a java built-in utility to do something, does that mean he can't ask if there's a java class for it?
    – user4229245
    May 3, 2015 at 3:34
  • I never said you voted to close the question.
    – user4229245
    May 3, 2015 at 3:35
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    @tgm1024 Yes, that's what it means. You don't just drop off your requirements at Stack Overflow. You do your own research. May 3, 2015 at 3:35
  • "You don't just drp off your requirements at Stack Overflow". (?????) HOW DID HE DO THAT? He was very clearly willing to do this by hand. He was also very clearly asking if it existed in Java already. How on EARTH is this wrong? This is precisely where SO has gone completely off the deep end with pedantry.
    – user4229245
    May 3, 2015 at 3:40
  • Had there been a facility in Java to convert numerical representations into their corresponding words, I would have loved to have known about it. I've been using java since 1996 and the facilities added from rev to rev STILL catch me by surprise.
    – user4229245
    May 3, 2015 at 3:44
  • @tgm1024 No, that wasn't clear at all from the original post. He posted his requirements and literally nothing else. He then came back later and posted a partial solution as an edit to the question instead of an answer. This is not a good question. May 3, 2015 at 3:44
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    @tgm1024 It didn't say anything about a Java built-in utility. It sounded like the OP was looking for source code or a library that could be found somewhere on the internet, which is looking for an off-site resource. Or at least people could interpret it that way, I was not part of the close vote. May 3, 2015 at 3:47
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    @tgm1024 well, if they feel bad is their prerogative. We shouldn't go tiptoeing just to be careful we don't hurt someone's feeling. The question just doesn't meet Stack Overflow quality standards and isn't within the scope of expertise Stack Overflow aims to offer. That's all there is. If they feel bad or not, that's not our interest.
    – Braiam
    May 3, 2015 at 3:54
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    @tgm1024 Nobody is chastising anyone. May 3, 2015 at 4:14
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    @tgm1024: It seems rather rude to ask people to explain why something was done and then attack them for attempting to do so. Perhaps you should step away from the keyboard for a few minutes, calm yourself, and take a different approach here. Being abusive isn't going to get you very far. (And yes, I guess I am lightly chastising you for being personally insulting toward Bill the Lizard, who is simply expressing his opinion and has done nothing to deserve comments that personally insult him like "you've lost track". I'm afraid you've lost track of how to control your emotions here.)
    – Ken White
    May 3, 2015 at 4:16
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    I am not able to understand how it is off site . He is asking asking for existing java class which include every class in jdk also. He may have poor choice of words but he is genuinely asking for java api methods.
    – Panther
    May 3, 2015 at 6:18
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    Fact is, we are not here as teachers, we are not a tutoring site - this site is meant to be a repository of knowledge.
    – user4756884
    May 3, 2015 at 11:03
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    "not here as teachers, this site is meant to be a repository of knowledge". WHERE is the knowledge gained by putting a question on hold and citing reasons that don't apply? There is certainly more knowledge to be gained by simply telling him, "no, the java IDE doesn't have such a facility."
    – user4229245
    May 3, 2015 at 15:36

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