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The SSCCE guide is <opinion>plain wonderful</opinion>. If the OP has a curious mind, they rapidly get the gist, and a gimme teh codez Question becomes an answerable and enjoyable one.

I'm mainly saying in Comments

Please check the guide http://sscce.org, because etc, etc

I tried [sscce] to see if it rendered something, but alas. My suggestion is to implement it and print some meaningful message/phrase/keywords or something. I don't have nothing specific in mind and am mainly throwing this to the Meta lion-esse-s.

Thinking about it, I guess it would have to be a Technology magic link. Is it possible in the grand magic scheme of things?


Related: Include SSCCE.ORG contents in an instruction page somewhere

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    1+ I would use this a lot. Oct 19, 2013 at 2:00
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    Given the nature of the link (its not hosted by SO), one might want to consider poking the appropriate people to add it to the help section so that one doesn't have to worry about external resources and can appropriately tweak it to a SO audience. Then it should be auto covered with the [help/something] magic link.
    – user289086
    Oct 19, 2013 at 2:02
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    @JoshCaswell but one can't link to it directly (its a level of indirection... and just think of how many people have difficulty with pointers). If it was mirrored, it could be linked as [help/sscce].
    – user289086
    Oct 19, 2013 at 2:09
  • @JoshCaswell, I had the same related in mind (and added to this Q). And also sometimes it's better to copy/paste the close reason in a comment, so the OP has some margin to work the Q out.
    – brasofilo
    Oct 19, 2013 at 2:10
  • I didn't realize you meant "add it to the Help Center as its own section", @MichaelT.
    – jscs
    Oct 19, 2013 at 3:13
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    @JoshCaswell yep. It might also be helpful to have the question checklist mirrored in the help center for the same reason... but that would be another wish and another feature request. Making helpful comments easier to write makes it easier to give them sooner in the process of fixing a poor question.
    – user289086
    Oct 19, 2013 at 3:19
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    Oh look, a user script - it's an extension of SE Comment Link Helper (because I already use that) - in addition it just replaces "[sscce]" with [SSCCE](http://sscce.org). Oct 19, 2013 at 15:31
  • vote to close and move on, when the question is closed the user will be given the close reason that contains the link. Why do we need to comment about it?
    – Kevin B
    Feb 13, 2015 at 21:32

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I disagree with this, on the grounds that it will promote simply linking to SSCCE as a means to disregard addressing the actual issues with a post.

Remember "What have you tried?" ("what have you tried, what have you tried, what have you tried, what have you tried...)

That link was eventually blacklisted. Instead of actually addressing the problem with the post, people would link to the post asking: "what have you tried?"

And, let's be honest, SSCCE is pretty much the same thing, albeit in a less caustic tone. I already see it used on many questions where, really, it's not good or relevant advice.

So I ask you: is this really needed? If you'd like to give feedback on a post, use something more clear, and maybe link to SSCCE if it's helpful.

Plus, let's be honest, how hard is it to type out the link to SSCCE? It's not like it's hard to remember.

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    As far as I can remember, WHYT never entered our FAQ or Close Reasons.
    – brasofilo
    Oct 19, 2013 at 5:47
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    I don't really see how that's relevant; having a magic link allows people to simply, well, link to SSCCE instead of expanding on what is wrong with a post. The close reason you have provided explains specifically why the advice in SSCCE is useful.
    – user1131435
    Oct 19, 2013 at 5:49
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    Gee, I want to explain what's wrong with the post, and for that I have How to Ask -[ask], How to Answer -[answer], help center -[help/on-topic], and Pretty, please, provide a Short Compilable Example.
    – brasofilo
    Oct 19, 2013 at 5:52
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    I think this would make it too easy for people to default to SSCCE as a link reference, in the same way that WHYT did. The point is that SSCCE is an addendum to the post, not the main content, and we should do everything to keep it that way.
    – user1131435
    Oct 19, 2013 at 5:54
  • Let's see http://sscce.org (16) versus [sscce] (7+some-meaningful-content)
    – brasofilo
    Oct 19, 2013 at 5:55
  • Is it really necessary to save seven characters?
    – user1131435
    Oct 19, 2013 at 5:56
  • That's what magic is for, no? :)
    – brasofilo
    Oct 19, 2013 at 5:57
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    The magic links are for links which are hard or irritating to remember. SSCCE is not one of those.
    – user1131435
    Oct 19, 2013 at 5:57
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    Ok. We're in disagreement, then.
    – brasofilo
    Oct 19, 2013 at 5:58
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    I ought to think that they should take the information from SSCCE and place it into their own help centre page. Oct 19, 2013 at 5:59
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    @brasofilo Worse yet, I do [SSCCE](http://sscce.org), so that's 18 characters more (though I often open another tab and let Chrome auto-complete do some of the work). I do this because "an sscce.org" doesn't make too much sense (sscce.org is a website, SSCCE is a thing). If we're going by key presses, that's 7 VS 29. Oct 19, 2013 at 14:12
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    Note that "[sscce]" is not long enough for a comment, but "http://sscce.org" or "[SSCCE](http://sscce.org)" is (where-as "What have you tried?" (or http://whathaveyoutried.com) is long enough). So, with a magic link, you have to add at least something else (though I haven't seen ((m)any?) comments consisting exclusively of the link). If anything, ban references to "SSCCE" without a link, or short comments containing "SSCCE", but being against the magic link doesn't make too much sense. Oct 19, 2013 at 15:42
  • As a technicality, the link itself isn't blocked, just comments consisting exclusively of "What have you tried?" or the link, unless this changed recently. Oct 19, 2013 at 17:30
  • @Duke I'm not sure, but I think it's comments containing the text and/or link.
    – user1131435
    Oct 20, 2013 at 4:38

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