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After adding a particular tag, such as

https://i.sstatic.net/GOGt3.png

this super helpful assistant will pop-up to suggest what their question should contain:

https://i.sstatic.net/GQPDw.png

Since forcing users to get badges or asking them "what have you tried?" to improve question quality isn't working, this seems like a viable alternative.

The nice thing about this is that it will allow the community to create standards (or a "tag-tip" wiki) for what each tag should say.

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    Did you really just invoke Clippy? (Now I'm going to start having the nightmares again.)
    – ale
    Commented Apr 29, 2013 at 18:57
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    Upvoted for "help the helpless " - This is what we're here for. Thank You Very Much Commented Apr 29, 2013 at 18:58
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    This is the first implementation of the "show tag-based info" idea that I actually like.
    – Pekka
    Commented Apr 29, 2013 at 18:59
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    This really should be a unicorn assistant, though....
    – JNK
    Commented Apr 29, 2013 at 19:01
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    Who creates/edits the tag tip wiki? Anyone? People with a certain number of answers in that tag? Commented Apr 29, 2013 at 19:20
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    At the risk of appearing too dorky even for Meta, I vote we twist Clippy into the shape of the Angel Investigations logo. (Can also be used to dust help vampires.)
    – Bill the Lizard Mod
    Commented Apr 29, 2013 at 19:21
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    Memories of clippycorn
    – Oded StaffMod
    Commented Apr 29, 2013 at 19:33
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    @MartinSmith If this feasible, I would suggest the same rep privileges apply for tag-tips that do for tag edits.
    – Kermit
    Commented Apr 29, 2013 at 19:38
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    For clippy's sake, can this just stay closed or open?
    – Kermit
    Commented Apr 30, 2013 at 13:23
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    wtf. This was reopened by 5 community members, why did it have to be closed again unilaterally? Please reopen - it is distinct from the other suggestion in that it has a concrete suggestion with a screen shot.
    – Pekka
    Commented Apr 30, 2013 at 13:32
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    Clippy? That's ridiculous, it'll turn people off immediately. Try this
    – Zelda
    Commented Apr 30, 2013 at 20:29
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    @BenBrocka Navi, clippy etc... Are you guys kidding ? You all know what we need
    – phadaphunk
    Commented Apr 30, 2013 at 20:41
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    @random it's not about clippy, it's about how also the selection of example tips hit the mark (unlike the other question, which otherwise is perfectly fine of course). That small difference made the suggestion fare much better than the original one... look at the votes. Not that you weren't correct in closing it, technically.
    – Pekka
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 8:44
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    This could have helped me for sure.
    – user243903
    Commented Dec 7, 2013 at 19:43
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    This is a really good proposal! I can already see the annoying assembly postings which really are net-assembly vanish like snow in the sun. :) Not really, but it may help. :)
    – Devolus
    Commented Dec 7, 2013 at 19:50

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Shucks, this is a pretty popular feature-request... Let's give it a try & see if it's more helpful than annoying:

Questions about SQL get better answers if they...

This'll pop up every time someone tries to ask a question with . It's not context-sensitive - if they've already included everything in that list, they'll still get the popup. But, it doesn't stop them from submitting the question...

If we don't hate ourselves after a few weeks of this, we can give some of Bohemian's ideas a try in other tags...

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    Woot woot! But I'm disappointed there's no clippy.
    – Kermit
    Commented Oct 17, 2014 at 2:38
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    Briefly tried this, then remembered I hate unicorns.
    – Shog9 Mod
    Commented Oct 17, 2014 at 2:47
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    If this works out, can I get a StackOverflow pencil?
    – Kermit
    Commented Oct 17, 2014 at 2:51
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    If it works out, I'll steal you a box of paperclips from the Stack Overflow office.
    – Shog9 Mod
    Commented Oct 17, 2014 at 2:57
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    I love this but it would be even better if the platform text prescribed that usually they want to pick only one platform. We still get lots of people tagging both mysql and sql-server, and in almost every single scenario it is just wrong (or maybe I have too much faith and they're over-tagging intentionally).
    – Aaron Bertrand Staff
    Commented Oct 19, 2014 at 15:26
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    Changed "a" to "one", @Aaron. Doubtful it will help much, but can't hurt.
    – Shog9 Mod
    Commented Oct 19, 2014 at 15:42
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    Thanks @Shog9! I doubt it will help much either, because no matter how big the spoon you're using to feed, some still refuse to eat. But like you said, can't hurt.
    – Aaron Bertrand Staff
    Commented Oct 19, 2014 at 15:42
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    (Also, if you're going by popular, this one came up yet again.) :-)
    – Aaron Bertrand Staff
    Commented Oct 19, 2014 at 15:44
  • Is that available on other sites, or just SO?
    – bfavaretto
    Commented Oct 20, 2014 at 20:16
  • This particular message is only for SO, @bfavaretto
    – Shog9 Mod
    Commented Oct 20, 2014 at 21:06
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    I thought you meant the feature was not available on all sites. I don't see any warning when trying to use the [sql] tag on pt.so, hence my question. That would be a nice feature to have there. Even nicer if the messages could be set and edited by moderators.
    – bfavaretto
    Commented Oct 20, 2014 at 21:35
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    How about adding the ability for gold badge users to add something like that on a per-tag basis ;)
    – Joe
    Commented Oct 20, 2014 at 21:51
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    @Shog9 Any stats on whether this has actually helped or not?
    – Kermit
    Commented Sep 17, 2015 at 13:02
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    @Shog9 So... it's been a while. If there has been no backslash, could we by any chance get this feature now for any tag that needs it, in an editable manner? Commented Jan 4, 2016 at 13:06
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    It can be done on any site, @Shadow - but only in the limited way described above (sidebar pop-up, gotta get an employee to add it).
    – Shog9 Mod
    Commented Jul 27, 2017 at 22:28
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There are certain tips for writing good questions that new users particularly don't abide by, for which they are often chided via comments and told to edit their questions. A large percentage of comments relate only to not obeying these tips. Further, lots of questions are closed ultimately, because they don't follow such tips.

As you said, the tips vary greatly depending on the context (that is, tags) of the question. Here's a few examples:

  • : Include RDBMS tag, relevant schema, sample data and a link to an SQLFiddle of same and desired output
  • : Don't "code dump", make sure posted code compiles, create an short, self contained, correct compilable, example (SSCCE)
  • : Post examples of text that should match and text that should not match. Post a link to an on-line regular expression tester with your sample input and attempted regular expression.

Suggestion:

It would be great if such tag-sensitive question-writing tips were shown to the user as they were writing their question, rather than waiting for them to write the question and then get a raft of negative comments and have to edit it. The tag data would have to have a new attribute(s) for "question tips" (possibly a child entity for many).

As tags are added to a question, a panel could appear on the right with the relevant tips with (links to) sample questions demonstrating each tip.

The information about tips would be community driven with the tag-edit being enhanced to allow experts (for example, 1000 reputation points in the tag) to edit the tips.

Certain tags would "inherit" their tips from a "parent" tag, for example, , and would all use the tips of .

I don't think tips should disappear after a certain number of reputation points is reached, because the tips are always relevant, and advanced users tend to answer questions, not ask them.

Further suggestion (tougher to implement, but very cool IMHO):

Do the above, but write some JavaScript code to detect when it seemed like the tips weren't being followed, and prompt the user to refine the question before posting it.

I don't know if this is the kind of answer you're looking for, but I was about to write my question on this exact topic, and noticed this duplicate. I think it's an awesome idea, and it would save lots of people lots of time correcting badly-written questions.

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    A simple proposal for the "Further suggestion" part: If the asker has less than x rep (something low in the range 100-250 maybe?), add a checkbox to the tag tips that needs to be checked before the question can be posted. This ensures the user can't just ignore it / is made aware of it - the context sensitive helpers we have atm (similar questions, post preview) seem to often be ignored as many new users aren't even able to format their question wihle seeing a live preview. Of course the mandatory checkbox should be removed once the user has sufficient reputation and should know the ropes.
    – l4mpi
    Commented Feb 21, 2014 at 10:56
  • @l4mpi That's a brilliant idea. Simple to do, but I imagine it might have quite a positive impact. Commented Feb 21, 2014 at 20:20
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    For regex tag: Suggest user to add a tool/language tag.
    – nhahtdh
    Commented Oct 17, 2014 at 4:00
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    If it was possible for trusted users to add the tag-spdcific advice (connected to the tag wiki, perhaps), this system would need develiper effort only once, when the feature was added.
    – Raedwald
    Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 19:27
  • an OOP system of inheritance for tags? sign me up!
    – ItamarG3
    Commented Jun 28, 2017 at 8:20

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